It began with a bath. Well, to be exact, the side of a bath which we happened upon, or rather which caught our eyes, when first we visited Charleston Farmhouse, the home of Bloomsbury Set members Duncan Grant and Vanessa Bell, some years ago. How jolly it would be, we thought, to have the panel of a bath painted in such a manner. And so the idea was born.
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| the bath panel as painted by Duncan Grant at Charleston Farmhouse |
Now, as it happens, our visitors' bathroom provides an ideal subject to be 'Charlestonised' and so we set about, in the absence of Duncan Grant, to find both artist and model. Orr Máté, one of our 'Bright Young Things' or, as darling Tom Stephenson would have it, one of our 'Floppy Boys', was an excellent choice of artist and within a short time a subject was secured and we believed ourselves set to go.
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| Duncan Grant [1885 - 1978] photographed in his Charleston Farmhouse studio |
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| born exactly 100 years after Duncan Grant, Orr Máté with first sketches |
Alas, our model took flight, borne away as some latter day Icarus destined to fly too near to the sun and fall ignominiously to an unseeing, unknowing, uncaring world. And then the idea struck. Forget the bath, at least for the moment, and instead we should celebrate our gardening years with a painting that would not only add to our collection of contemporary Hungarian art, itself an abiding interest, but would also serve as an allegory to those distant but joyful times.
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| the Tower, Rill and Fountain of our Herefordshire garden, summer 2003 |
And now we have it. Or, to be truthful, the painting is finished, awaiting delivery, when, together with Máté, we are planning a fabulous luncheon party [Tímea, our cook/housekeeper is yet to be alerted to this fact!!] to coincide with its unveiling. Such fun!
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| click to enlarge 'The Painting', Orr Máté's latest work - an allegory of a garden |
One thing remains. A title. We have thought of the possibility of 'The Triumph of Nature Over Man', for finally so it ever was. Máté, as the artist, has his ideas. What of yours?
N.B. We are grateful to Jim of Parnassus for his assistance with the copyright of the first two images. These are, respectively, Richard Bryant and Lebrecht Music and Arts Library/Alamy.
You should still do the bath one day. Beautiful. Mate' has done a wonderful painting in celebration of your gardening. No title from me. I do see a peaceful look on the deer...almost like it is more a one sided fight. Man is struggling but nature just is.
ReplyDeleteYou are right.In fact we have not totally given up on the idea and still think that it would be exciting to have the side of the bath painted.
DeleteYes, it is quite possible that Man, in the end, may win over Nature. What we like about all of Máté's work is that it is open to all manner of interpretations.
What a fabulous piece Jane and Lance, it's an exquisite and well executed commission you have there! And I can tell that you are both very pleased with this beautiful work of art.
ReplyDeleteThe title you proposed sounds perfect!
Of course we are delighted, Mark and Gaz, that you too like the painting and as serious gardeners yourselves you will appreciate its relevance to us.
DeleteI am given to wondering if the Bloomsbury Set would have been as fascinating in real life as they are in history. Maybe, maybe not. The romantic me would have liked to be part of the circle, or an observer at least.
ReplyDeleteThe garden painting is terrific and with it adorning your walls, will show how eclectic your tastes are.
I also like Orr's piece. I see rather a lot in it, but not related to a garden.
A luncheon hosted by JayLa? I expect multiple taxis will be required at 4pm somewhere just off Andrassy.
Sorry, but I don't like the title at all. Nothing comes to my mind as a title, but maybe I will return with a suggestion after some sleep.
Like you, Andrew, we are fairly sure that the Bloomsbury Set taken as a whole might well on occasion have proved to be a little tricky. A great many individuals in that household, each with very definite opinions.
DeleteWe are really pleased that you like the painting. Next time, as surely there must be one, you and R are here, then you must meet Máté for he is most engaging, full of charm and great fun to be with. And each one of us should, and must, view the work differently.
We think that for the luncheon, which will need to be special, you may well be right!!
No apologies about the title are needed. Why should they be? xxx
Hello Jane and Lance, What a fascinating painting by Orr Máté ; I admire you enormously for have the taste and courage to commission it. Looking at it I gain insight both as to why I appreciate gardens, and also why I have never built one. Both the human and natural/animal elements are denatured by wearing disguises, and the symbolic potted plants are the true victors, calmly flourishing while absorbing the energy released from the central internecine struggle. Most telling is that the plant on the animal's side is larger and more vigorous.
ReplyDelete--Jim
P.S. By right-clicking on those photos and selecting Properties, I noticed that the copyright for the Bath photo is credited to "Richard Bryant, arcaid.co.uk", and the Duncan Grant photo to "Lebrecht Music and Arts Photo Library / Alamy".
We are, Jim, as doubtless you realise, not only interested in contemporary Hungarian art but also very keen if at all possible to support young artists as we do musicians. That said, we should never buy any work that we did not really like. Máté is an artist whose paintings we greatly admire and so it is easy!!
DeleteIn our gardening days we were only ever really interested in formal gardens and the restructuring and 'taming' of Nature to one's own design or, on occasion, whim. Your comments here on Máté's painting we find not only pertinent but also hugely interesting. We very much wish that we could take you to his studio as we believe that you would find both his work and him fascinating, as surely he would you. Thank you so much for ascertaining the copyright of the first two images.
Great post! I love the bath panel!
ReplyDeleteWe agree, Linda, the bath panel is simply wonderful hence the original idea.
DeleteCharleston has long been a major influence for me in the many houses and gardens I have spent my life in over the years. I do hope you will paint your bath one day, and find the right artist. It will be stunning.
ReplyDeleteYour new painting is quite extraordinary and I can see you love it and look forward to sharing it - a wonderful reason for a party!
Like you, Marianne, we continue to be fascinated with the Bloomsbury Set and are so fortunate that both Charleston and Monk's House are near to us when we are in Brighton. Yes, we are certain that the bath will be done at some point, and possibly much else besides!
DeleteThe new painting will, we know, give us much in the way of interest and pleasure.
Immersing yourselves in Charleston was a brilliant idea. I am sure Duncan Grant, Vanessa Bell and the others paid a personal price, but as a community they succeede brilliantly.
ReplyDeleteA name? "With a leap and a bound, he was by his side".
Everything connected with Charleston and those who were part of that community we find to be of interest. Yes, a personal price most surely will have been paid at the time but they, and their work, happily live on.
DeleteWe very much like your cryptic title which we shall discuss with Máté. Thank you.
I like the idea of painting the side of the bath. Most of the baths down under and not tall and one wouldn't see the beauty of a painting.
ReplyDeleteTower Hill as a painting is a living memory. I recall seeing Tower Hill on your blog one day and also reading about it.
You introduced me to Orr Mate in one of your posts, I like most of his work that I have had the pleasure of viewing, however, for the life of me I can't see the garden in the painting here..., but never mind, we all see different things :)
We are so pleased that you have both now and in the past found Máté's work to be of interest. And it is so true that we all view things, and contemporary art is no exception, in different ways and that has to be a good thing.
DeleteAs for this recent work, well there are the hedges, the plants in pots........!!!!! None of it matters beyond the fact that it is lovely to hear from you.
I see the hedges, plants & pots :) maybe a crow.
DeleteWhat is wonderful is that you see what you wish to see! And thank you so much for your interest.
DeleteA formal garden can only exist while there are enough people around to maintain it. Certainly the case here, parts of it return to nature on a regular basis however hard I try to keep up.
ReplyDeleteHow about 'The Folly of a Garden', linking both to the concept of an ultimate return to nature and to the tower?
We totally agree with what you say here about maintaining a formal garden. From our own experience making and then keeping such a garden going over a twenty-five year period was no simple matter and we completely identify, Jessica, with the way in which so very easily it can 'return to nature'.
DeleteWe love your suggested title. Something else to be talked over with Máté.
Dear Jane and Lance,
ReplyDeleteDuncan Grant's bath panel is magnificent and I can understand how it inspired you to do the same. Although you decided to instead commission a picture from the talented young man, which is indeed marvelous, I would imagine that your original intention is still on the back burner.
Nature will always stand above us and no matter what form it takes, we must always be in awe of its power.
You are absolutely right, Arleen, when you assume that our original idea for the bath is still under consideration. Indeed, the more we think about it as a fun idea, the more we are drawn to it. For now, though, we have the painting to enjoy.
DeleteYes, Nature does in the end triumph and we should all be very aware of that fact.
I too am fascinated with the Bloomsbury Set and would love to visit Charleston. The painting is amazing, so beautiful. The Beauty and The Beast of The Garden xxx
ReplyDeleteWe can, most certainly, recommend a visit to Charleston as well as to nearby Monk's House, the home of Virginia and Leonard Woolf whilst nearby is to be found Berwick Church which contains murals by both Duncan Grant and Vanessa Bell. WE wrote a post on the church, 'A Bishop Orders a Painting', on 5th. September 2011 which you might care to look at.
DeleteThank you for your splendid suggested title. Another to give to Máté!
Not at all a fan of the Bloomsbury set.....but decidedly a fan of the bath panel idea.
ReplyDeleteWe had formal gardens when in France but have decided to live with the exuberance of untramelled nature for a while now we are in the tropics....thoiugh I am contemplating turning the cafetal into a series of broad terraces...time will tell.
Currently we are off to Spain to see what we can do with a neglected, unpromising garden, freezing in winter, blazing in summer and with metered water.
The picture? Actaeon Reductus.
Not everyone is, and that we totally understand. Whatever, the bath panel idea remains under consideration.
DeleteFormal gardens, as you will so readily know, are exceedingly labour intensive. If we were ever to have another garden of any size, which is unlikely, then we should restrict it to mown paths through avenue to create vistas, perhaps something in the way of hedges but little else. Broad terraces sound lovely, but a great undertaking.
Good luck with the Spanish foray. That will not be easy.
Absolutely adore your suggested title - the classical reference will greatly appeal to Máté.
Gorgeous. I love the idea of nature prevailing. How true that is and not only in the garden. I think I'm so interested in art and fashion and music as it's the only thing that keeps the animal instincts somewhat in check. Gorgeous. The bathtub idea is also splendid but perhaps less practical? Mind you, who needs practical?
ReplyDeleteIn our gardening years we were rather concerned at how readily Nature could, and occasionally did, take over and as a result spent in excess of a quarter of a century in battle. Happily now, without a garden, we are not troubled in that way.
DeleteWe long ago gave up on practicality - sometimes to the despair and dismay of close friends.
Hi dears, lovely to see you are still enjoying commissioning new art from young artists. . . .this piece is very unusual and I feel you will have a perfect spot to hang it in your beautiful Budapest home.
ReplyDeleteAs for my walls, although this type of art would not work here, a painting (or even a photo) of your stunning former Herefordshire garden would! It was so beautiful - if only my garden looked like that!
Thanks so much for your very kind words on the recent loss of Bob's sweet mother - we truly appreciated you taking time to write.
Hugs - Mary
Well, dearest Mary, as we think of it, supporting young artists has to be better than mugging elderly people on the streets - not that we have given it a try!!
DeleteHopefully you will see Máté's painting in place next year along with so much else to see and do.
Your garden ALWAYS looks to be a delight in all of the photographs you publish. And we are certain that it is.
We were so sad to know of the death of Bob's mother but trust, after everything, that your time on the coast was enjoyable. Love from us both. xxx
Darlings Jane & Lance,
ReplyDeleteI was thinking 'Valiant Nature, Fallen Man' using your working title as the theme with my own interpretation that the suddenly provoked 'Beast' will remind Man of his true place in the world but stop just short of slaying him....let us hope he learns his lesson.
Now that, Darling G, is a title to be reckoned with and one which will, most definitely, be submitted to Máté for his consideration. We very much understand and appreciate the interpretation. And we continue to live in hope!
DeleteI was signing in to Blogspot when I commented, so if my comment was lost it was this:-
ReplyDeletehave been exploring Mate Orr's blogspot... I am unsettled by the humans with animal heads and I'm not sure that I could live with one of these paintings full time, but I do like - this one. I find the mix of painting styles amusing, subtle and appealing. I like that his style embraces a wide range of tastes.
Sx
But no, the wonders of modern technology have prevailed, and here is your comment for which so many thanks. We are pleased that the work of Máté intrigues you and in many ways it matters not at all whether or not you would wish to live with his paintings. And how very clever of you to embed a link - we are hugely impressed. He is, himself as a person, wonderfully and delightfully strange!
DeleteNo words. No ideas, save for wondering is this FOR the bath, or for ON the bath, as is the original? I’m trying to imagine a guest’s stepping over such unimaginably exquisite work, dripping suds and nekkid as a jaybird, so to speak (and speaking of a purely hypothetical guest, of course).. No Archimedes in your address book.
ReplyDeleteIt’s chillingly lovely, immaculately drawn, and the hauntingly-beautiful cervine creature has a gaze that wonders, “Will that brush capture my soul?” And those muscles of both manbird and beast---those would have been the envy of all the Grand Masters who disinterred their models, though the tints perfectly capture blood flush and beating heart..
Still have no words, except that I would wish the room to be of a size that I could stand far back and take it all in, every day. Talk about a conversation piece! I doubly hope that the room will hold a cocktail crowd, as well, for you know that’s where they’ll congregate.
Love and,
rchl
You are so very generous and appreciative too of Máté's work, Rachel, and we shall certainly direct him to your comment which we are sure, as with everything which people are kind enough to say, he will find of great interest.
DeleteFear not, for whilst we are not totally decided where 'The Painting' should hang it will definitely not be relegated to a bathroom to become the victim of shower gel, bubble bath and talcum powder. Oh no, it is destined for greater glory, most likely with some rearrangement in the drawing room.
As with all his work, it will provide something to talk about.
Man looks, at once, muscular and emaciated. I don't have an idea for a title at first glance but it seems to me this is the sort of thing that one must allow to simmer on the back brain for a bit before the true meaning, and hence name, presents itself with that sort of clarity one recognizes as authority.
ReplyDeleteYou lead, my dear FGPs, such beautifully-cultured and stimulating lives!
Ultimately, dearest FGD, it is probably for the artist to decide in what way he or she wishes to name a work or, as is often the case, not to give it any title. The important thing is, as in this case, the painting itself rather than what it may be called.
DeleteAs always, you are most kind.
On second look, I find the potted plants to be of interest. That's when I noticed your caption, that it is an allegory of a garden. What would happen, I wonder, it the animal had been masked also, or if the man had not?
ReplyDeleteOn third look, somewhat absurdly, I see the man lifting the animal the way a boyfriend used to playfully lift me when we'd wrestle. My stomach would balance on the heels of his upturned feet and I was Superman, aloft and charging.
You raise a most interesting point here, Suze, and one which we shall be keen to talk to Máté about!! And your second observation is also something to think on!!
DeleteHave a lovely weekend.
Suze, I immediately saw the same thing!
DeleteThis is all so very goodly!!
DeleteYour newest painting is a force to be reckoned with....nature, especially in the garden wins every time.
ReplyDeleteI have always enjoyed reading about the eccentric Bloomsbury Group and find their lifestyle and history quite fascinating. It would be fun to go back in time and meet them all.
The bath panel sounds like a great way to add art to a bathroom but I wonder how vulnerable the canvas might be to the water and steam associated with a bath and shower. Perhaps Mate could paint a fresco on your ceiling so that when you lie back soaking in the tub you can gaze up and glimpse his creative art.
We think that you are absolutely right, Leslie, in saying that finally, and certainly in the garden, Nature will always win.
DeleteThe Bloomsbury Set continue to be as intriguing as when they were alive and have most definitely become their own legend. Both Charleston and Monk's House are near to us when we are in Brighton and to visit either is always of interest.
We simply love your idea of a painted ceiling whereby one could lie in the bath and have a whole world of strange creatures and happenings above one's head. This is such a great thought and one not to be dismissed!!
This painting reminded me a little of the art of Engonopoulos, the Greek surrealist painter and poet. Ι would propose " The Man and the Animal". Looking forward to the photos of the party!
ReplyDeleteOlympia
Olympia, you have now with your mention of Engonpoulos introduced us to an artist about whom we previously knew nothing. How really fascinating, and we thank you for this.
DeleteAn another wonderful possible title. Perhaps we shall end with more than one!!
Exquisite. Your blog is like taking a field trip to the finest museums.
ReplyDeleteThis is both kind and more than generous of you. And also very much appreciated.
DeleteOh your joy of life just keeps inspiring! I can only imagine how much fun your luncheon party will be and I do hope you share it with us via the blogosphere!
ReplyDeleteWe too think that the luncheon party, now tentatively set for the start of October, will be enormous fun and we are much looking forward to sharing this latest acquisition with friends and introducing Máté to those he has not yet met.
DeleteAnd possibly, Jackie and Joel, something of it will creep into the blogosphere!!
Funnily enough, I saw just the sort of French bath that Marat was murdered in today, and it was a mere £325 in a friend's antique shop. Dress up the Floppy Boy and have him pose in it for you!
ReplyDeleteBut surely, darling Tom, you know how much that this would instantly appeal to us [and most likely Máté too]? You should have bought it and hang the expense!!
DeleteFloppy Boy, or just 'Our Mate'?!
ReplyDeleteThis is PERFECT!! And very clever!!
DeleteDearest Jane & Lance
ReplyDeleteOrr Mate has again created a masterpiece. Well done, congratulations on acquiring another Mate original. I am sure the party will be the event of the week in Budapest.
The bathtub project I like and I wonder if this is more "arts and crafts" and Orr Mate is unquestionably a fine, fine artist
Oh what fun it would be to name this painting but I feel it should be a collaborative one and best decided upon over several drinks.
Helenxx
Dearest Helen,
DeleteIt is such [harmless, we hope] fun collecting some of the work of these young Hungarian artists like Máté who are so very creative and have such enormous talent. As an established and highly successful artist yourself you will be very conscious of all that is involved in making a name in the art world and gaining recognition.
Your point about the bath project as being more 'Arts and Crafts' is most valid. Something else to reflect upon, as with the name!!
Have a really happy and relaxing weekend wherever you are [at present we are somewhat unsure as to which country you may be in!]. xxx
"The True Spirit of Scouting"
ReplyDelete"Robert Baden-Powell, founder of the Scouting movement, spoke to Scouts at the 1933 World Jamboree in Gödöllő, Hungary, about the white stag: The White Stag has a message for you. Hunters of old pursued the miraculous stag, not because they expected to kill it, but because it led them in the joy of the chase to new and fresh adventures, and so to capture happiness. You may look on the White Stag as the true spirit of Scouting, springing forward and upward, ever leading you onward to leap over difficulties, to face new adventures in your active pursuit of the higher aims of Scouting.—Baden-Powell's farewell speech to the Scouts"
In the book, 'Scouting foe Boys'?
Delete'for', of course... (mutter, mutter, mutter...)
DeleteThis, Susan, is remarkable and whilst we were aware of the 1933 Jamboree held here in Hungary, we knew nothing of this reference to the white stag and find this connection both fascinating and interesting. We shall certainly ask Máté about this when we next see him.
DeleteAs you may be aware, Hungary in the 1930s was ruled by a Fascist dictator, 'Admiral' Horthy, who, courted by Hitler, was responsible for the most appalling atrocities which were carried out at the time. It was against such a background that the Jamboree was held.
I was amazed to follow the trail of "white stag" and come across this, and your historical note is fascinating--and chilling, too. I am curious about what drew the artist to the choice of the white stag--though perhaps that's best left as an unknown, opening out many avenues of interpretation and contemplation, as any fine work of art does.
DeleteWe too are most interested in the significance of the 'white stag' and whilst we agree that each one of us should interpret its presence in the painting in his or her own way, nevertheless we shall be intrigued to hear Máté's view on this whole subject.
DeleteThe word "Retaliation" comes to mind.
ReplyDeleteYou must have quite a collection of art...I always think the bath is the last place to exhibit fine art...but then again you are there often!...
'Retaliation'!! Now that is most interesting, and by whom upon whom?
DeleteYes, we do have an interest in contemporary art and find much of the work of young Hungarian artists to be very appealing. As for art in the bathroom, why not?!!
Dearest Jane & Lance,
ReplyDeleteYour new painting has arrived and what a beauty it is. Compliments to Ohr. I see you got many suggestions for the title. I hope you will find a suitable one amongst them. What comes to my mind when I look at your painting is: Adam, paradise and virginity. Have been thinking about a title which captures it all, but it simply doesn't pop up :-) Sorry!
The idea about the painted bath sounds lovely. You should take it up again. Why not give it a try yourself? It should be fun!
Love,
Madelief xox
Dearest Madelief,
DeleteYes, and it is all so very exciting, particularly thinking where this latest acquisition is to be hung. And it will be something new for you to see on your next visit !!
So many people have come up with such excellent possible titles. We shall leave the final choice to Máté but think that the connections that you have made are most interesting indeed.
No, we will not now, encouraged by you, forget the idea of the painted bath but wish that we shared your optimism that we could do it ourselves!!
Have a lovely weekend and love to you all. xxx
Dear Jane and Lance, I hope you will return to the idea of the painted bath panel, when painter and model can be reunited. It's lovely to see your Herefordshire garden, so very beautiful, and the painting does indeed suggest the power of nature keeping human gardening endeavour on the back foot - or on its behind!
ReplyDeletePS. Yes, I know the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford and really wanted to visit again, but we feared the kids were maxed out on decorative arts, so we opted for the Pitt Rivers instead. And I feared my readers might be fed up with yet more photos, so I edited out that part of the day! I recall being taken there as a child, and was delighted that my own kids were equally fascinated by the macabre shrunken heads and bizarre artefacts. We'll save the joys of the Ashmolean for another visit! Xxxx
We have not really abandoned the idea altogether of the painted bath, Curtise, rather that in the absence of a suitable model, we somewhat changed direction. That said, we have several possible new contenders to be 'immortalised' on the side of a bath and so all is, by no means, lost!
DeleteWe do agree with what you say here about Máté's painting and are pleased that you appreciate the way in which, at least for us, it connects with the garden we once made.
Oh, the Pitt Rivers!! That is a name which conjures up childhood memories! The Ashmolean is, we think, a wonderful museum. Do, when you next visit, look out for the 'Hattatt' vase as well as other pieces from the Hattatt Collection.
Thanks for doing this, I always felt guilty on displaying one of my favorite pieces, a nude sketch (done by an artist friend) in the master bath.
ReplyDeleteI am a big fan of Mate's art, if and when I am in your neighborhood I would love to meet the young man and see more of his work.
Hope the installation of your newest acquisition goes well of course in the bathroom.
Best wishes from a very hot Oklahoma (36 C to be exact).
We love the idea of your nude sketch hanging in the bathroom which seems to us to be a most suitable place. Indeed, in our own bathroom we have a study of nude figures. And why not?
DeleteMáté would, we know, be so pleased and interested to meet you and would be delighted to show you his studio. Indeed we rather take advantage of his hospitality and take many of our visitors there as part of the sights of Budapest. He never fails to be welcoming. So, a reason to come to Europe and to visit Hungary!!
Budapest remains now pleasantly warm; we do not envy you 36C and hope that you are managing to remain reasonably cool.
The bath idea is an interesting one,I suspect I may spend a lot of time in the bathroom if we had a painting like that.
ReplyDeleteI do not imagine Orr Máté's work is to every one's taste but it does intrigue me. 'The Triumph of Nature Over Man' would be a hard title to beat.
Take care and I hope all is well. Diane
Apart from the practical aspects of water and steam, which we have always rather ignored,we have never really seen a reason not to have pictures in the bathroom as anywhere else in the house. That said, Diane, we now think that this latest work is destined for the drawing room although some rearrangement will be required to give it sufficient space on the wall.
DeleteArt is so much an individual thing we should never expect everyone to like the same thing.
All is well with us as we so hope that it is with you.
We are fine but my laptop is very dead!! Someone seeing it tomorrow and I am hoping I do not have to buy a new one. Meanwhile, I hop on N's laptop when he is otherwise engaged! :-) Diane
DeleteOh dear, we really sympathise. Do hope that you are spared the expense of a new laptop. Nothing these days seems to last for very long.
DeleteI can't believe I still haven't made it to that house but love the pics you post on Pinterest and I must go. I adore this artists work and isn't he lucky to have you as patrons!
ReplyDeleteA visit to Charleston and Monk's House too is an absolute must for whenever you have the opportunity. The houses are so very intriguing and the paintings of both Duncan Grant and Vanessa Bell so special and so redolent of the period.
DeleteWonderful! I love the painting, it's truly beautiful, and love the picture of your Herfordshire garden as well.
ReplyDeleteI still think you should have a go at the bath though - wonderful idea and the inspiration picture is perfection.
So lucky to have a talented artist to commission works from, I shall have to go and Google to see what else he's produced!
We are so very thrilled that you like Máté's latest painting, Heidi. We are, as you may imagine, most excited about it and are now seriously considering where it should hang.
DeleteYour comment about the bath panel has greatly encouraged us; it would indeed seem a great pity to drop the idea altogether. You are right, something must be done!!
Do Google Máté's work - we think that you will find much of interest.
Jane and Lance that is awesome that you were able to have this artwork created for you two... I am not great with titles but the one you mentioned 'The Triumph of Nature Over Man' sounds very appropriate for this painting.
ReplyDeleteIt is very interesting and unique :) Have a lovely weekend :)
We really do consider ourselves so very fortunate, Launna, and are so excited to have this painting. Máté is, we believe, an exceptional artist and one who is, in addition, great fun to be with which is not the case with everyone!!
DeleteWe wish you too a happy and relaxing weekend.
Dear Jane and Lance,
ReplyDeleteI think your handsome new painting should be titled "Nature Wins by Leaps and Bounds." Orr Máté's work is really stunning, both in concept and execution.
A most imaginative [and fun] title, Mark, which we very much like. As a person of great discernment, and something of a perfectionist too, we are so pleased that you approve of Máté's painting.
DeleteThis is going to be quite a bathroom. The painting is glorious!
ReplyDeleteWe do so agree, Adrienne, that the painting is enormous fun and carries with it so much interest, especially for the two of us.
DeleteFor a moment I was confused (it being pre-breakfast hour for me with corresponding low blood sugar level) and thought you'll have "Nature's Triumph over Man" on the bath panel. Actually - why not?
ReplyDeleteAlas, Meike, whilst our original idea was for a painting actually on the bath panel we have now ended up, most happily we have to say, with a very large canvas which is actually over 2m in length. It is, we think, destined for the drawing room.
DeleteA lovely bath, garden and extraordinary painting! I think I might call it 'Nature Abhors a Garden'. How nice to have an original. Hope you share photos of your luncheon and hope Timea is not too put out! xo Karen
ReplyDeleteWe simply love your title which is so very apt, true and hugely funny!!
DeleteThe news of the luncheon, scheduled for the beginning of October, has yet to be broken to Tímea. She will, as always, take it in her stride and enjoy telling us what we should or should not have!!
Well I have often wanted to Charleston-ize my home, so I can understand from whence the whole sentiment sprang!
ReplyDeleteThe painting is very provocative and does deserve an equally provocative name that evokes its essence. I like GSL's. Perhaps "The Hubris of Man"?
Sadly, we are all somewhat restricted since we have neither a Duncan Grant nor a Vanessa Bell to hand!!
DeleteWe too feel that Máté's work is likely to provoke comment. But that is surely all to the good?!!
The bath panel can wait but you certainly need that painting of the Arrow Cottage. What happy hours I had strolling through this imaginative exciting plot not knowing what was round the corner.
ReplyDeleteI'm off on Sunday to see The Laskett !!!!
Alas, Sue, it is a photograph rather than a painting of the garden. But how wonderful that you remember it as it was [now totally destroyed and nothing more, or so we understand, than a field and the house much altered and resold yet again].
DeleteYou are certain to enjoy The Laskett. Roy Strong gave the two of us a personal tour many years ago and we thought then that it was incredible. It has, we know, been developed even further since that time.
Lovely new image... good luck with the title.. unfortunately this evening, I am at a loss for suggestions.
ReplyDeleteNot a problem at all, Matthew. We shall surely arrive at something.
DeleteJust heaving a sigh of relief having read that the painting is destined to grace the drawing room wall and NOT the side of the bath to be splashed and watered out of existence. It's fabulous! Took me a moment or two to realise that the black is actually a beak and not as I first thought the young man's hair flying over his face as he falls.
ReplyDeleteEnjoy your weekend, I bet you two are off to some exotic soirée!!
Sending hugs,
Jane xx
Even we, Jane, recognize that possibly the painting would not fare any too well if placed in a comparatively small bathroom!!
DeleteBut we are so pleased that you like it.Yes, the figure wears a mask with a pointed beak - all a little sinister!!
We send you our best wishes for an enjoyable, relaxing and fun weekend from a wonderfully warm Budapest.
Dear Jane and Lance. How often a wonderful place can inspire us! After visiting Charleston, I took to writing on my walls. Seeing the Bloomsberries energy and freedom in decorating their home, led me to experiment with something I had long wanted to do. Your new painting is incredibly powerful, what a talented young artist! Jane xx
ReplyDeleteJane,how positively WONDERFUL that you should have been so inspired by Charleston. Not only the house, the contents, but also the lives of those who lived and spent time there remain a constant source of interest and fascination to us. They were all, each in his or her own individual way, extraordinary people and hugely creative.
DeleteThanks for reviving memories of Charleston. It is one of the few places I miss now I no longer live in Sussex.
ReplyDeleteA day spent at Charleston, as you will remember, is always both of interest and inspirational. Happily it is near to us when we are in Brighton.
DeletePossible title: His new aftershave was irresistible. Okay, sorry. Something more lofty would be appropriate; the painting itself, beautifully done, demands it. This is a great idea adorn your tub. We must surround ourselves with luxury at every possible turn.
ReplyDeleteUnlike Queen Victoria, we ARE amused!!
DeleteAlthough this particular painting is destined for the drawing room, we are not yet finished with the idea of painting the side of the bath!
I'm sure a decorated bath would be fun, but how much better to have a unique commemoration of your wonderful garden and by such a marvellously gifted young artist. Enjoy your lunch party and the unveiling.
ReplyDeleteWe are, as you will readily appreciate, Perpetua, absolutely thrilled with the painting which, in a symbolic and allegorical way, captures so much of what our garden actually meant to us.
DeleteAnd the bath is always there for when the piggy bank is refilled!
Good evening to you, Jane and Lance.
ReplyDeleteI count myself so fortunate to have had a solo tour of Charleston with a wise guide one afternoon in May, many years ago. It was a remarkable time to watch all sorts of preconceptions formed by art history dissolve into my own perceptions.
Decorative painting that is also fine painting is an art. Not every artist can do that translation.
Please pass along to your friend Mate my compliments on his painting.
Sometimes titles for painting become too much like labels, so I might call your beautiful painting, inspired by your past gardens, Allegory. Allow the viewers to find their own way into the painting.
Best wishes from hot and humid NYC. xo
Good morning [for such it is[ Frances,
DeleteHow absolutely wonderful to have had a tour of Charleston totally to yourself. What an experience and one of which we are not a tiny bit envious. It really is the most remarkable house, as were the lives of all those connected with it.
We very much agree with what you say here about 'decorative painting', something which is not in actuality so readily achieved.
Of course we will pass on your message to Máté which, knowing as we do a little of your own background, counts for a great deal.
And you are so right about titles given to paintings which can, too often, lead the viewer in a single direction. 'Allegory' appeals enormously and readily translates into Hungarian as 'Allegória'.
We so hope that it becomes a little less humid for you. We are enjoying warm September days, a perfect start to autumn. xxx
Here I am tail end Charlie again and as I can tell the bath panel painting is still very much alive, if still in the planning phase. I'm leaping ahead to visualising the cocktail party for the grand Chalestonised unveiling. When I think of Hattatts I always think of grand society events and wonderful evenings...
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking of course of white orchids everywhere and maybe if the piggy bank is a little low, it will be a simple affair. You dearest Jane amidst a load of Badedas bubbles (fully clothed of course, what sort of a Wren do you take me for?) and Lance dressed in his best tuxedo with a bottle of French bubbles enjoying celebrating success of another project completed. Yes a night in, at the Guest Bathroom, with fabulous nibbles, maybe something gently steamed, should we perhaps alert Timea now? I do believe Teddy would be the only guest, it's maybe not quite Edward's thing?
Wren x
You are completely right, for we have not yet given up on the idea of the painted bath panel rather that it has, for the present, been somewhat overtaken by the latest painting.
DeleteWe are enjoying planning the 'Great Unveiling' but, please be assured, it will include many of our 'Bright Young Things' who are far from grand but are full of interest and vitality, amusing and intelligent. However, we are already warming to your suggestion of white orchids or, failing that, certainly white lilies. As it happens we seldom have other than white flowers indoors if obtainable which, believe it or not, is not always the case here. But, reading on, we really need you to be here to oversee the execution of your brilliant ideas. Very clearly the Wren nest is not a dull one and we are now imagining the constant flutter of wings, feathers flying in all directions as yet another flight of fancy comes into being. Perfect.
And as with all of this, you are right about Edward who is a little too conservative for such jolly junketings!
Of course I would be delighted to accept and will make sure my feathers are flying in the right direction to be with you for the 'Great Unveiling.' You are spot on re my life but I would be all of a flutter over what to wear mixing with the Bright Young Things. If I stick to the original theme of a few Badedas bubbles and an orchid in my beak hopefully that will be me fully covered as I want to make the right sort of amusing and intelligent entrance?
DeleteWren x
We are certain that you would look the part however attired. The important thing is that you would be here and what enormous fun that would be and together we should most definitely give the 'Bright Young Things' a run for their money!!
DeleteWow! Not only is your painting beautiful and powerful, it's fascinating! I find myself pondering "What does it mean"? I see two bodies, both lean and muscled. So similar in body types that I wonder if it's two sides of one being. The moose alters and the crow head? I'm still working on what it means to me, and I think I will be pondering that for a long time. I love the two potted plants, so calm and ordinary next to such a powerful scene. I would love to know what the artist thinks.
ReplyDeleteOf course, Terry, you highlight one of the most important aspects of looking at paintings, or so we believe, and that is that if an individual painting is of worth, then it will raise all manner of questions in the mind of the onlooker. Your observations here about Máté's latest work we find totally fascinating and hugely interesting and are ideas which we shall certainly wish to discuss with him. Would that you could be here!
DeleteThat bath is fabulous and you should have one, but that painting, oh my, it is very powerful. Intriguing. I'm going to spend some time with it.
ReplyDelete'Powerful' certainly describes Máté's painting, Jen, as it does much of his work. He is an exceptional artist, or so we believe, and one who has extraordinary ideas which he translates onto canvas with great skill and talent.
DeleteDear Jane and Lance,
ReplyDeleteThe painting is wonderful and what a talented Artist - I love the allegory of a garden and can see, why the need to host a luncheon party for the unveiling.
The Charleston farmhouse bathroom is lovely as is the gorgeous Herefordshire garden. Hope that you can one day have the painted bath panel.
Hope you have a happy weekend
hugs
Carolyn
We are so pleased that you like the painting, Carolyn. We somehow thought that we should not simply hang it on the drawing room wall without marking the occasion in some way or another and the luncheon party for some of our friends who would be particularly interested seems a fun idea.
DeleteBe assured, the plan for the bathroom has not gone away, simply put aside for the moment.
How baroque the tub surround is and I can see why you would want one for your bath gazing upon art in the bath would help one to relax and loose oneself in the art and thus give the most benefit to a luxurious bathing experience.
ReplyDeleteThe painting, exposed to the elements, a garden allegory for sure.
Yes, we do rather like to have 'art' represented in the bathroom as elsewhere in the house and the idea of having the side of the bath painted, as at Charleston, appeals to us enormously. It would certainly enhance the whole experience of taking a bath.
DeleteWell, everything about this is just exquisite. Many of us have ideas (I actually have been wanting to do an abstract painting on a lampshade) but how many of us follow through, let alone as a patron of the arts? As I hope that I have said before, I have nothing but the highest respect for all that you both are doing to bolster to the local (and amazing) arts community. With a deep bow,
ReplyDeleteHeather
PS. And please add my vote to those that hope that you will someday continue with the bath - it would be too wonderful!
Oh, Heather, how we love the idea of the painted lampshades, something which with all of your creative talents you really should do and which we can see so well fitting in to your wonderfully eclectic, interesting and imaginative style of interior decoration and furnishing. And when you have done your own, please come and decorate ours. We should give you free reign.
DeleteWe much appreciate your comment here with regard to our small attempt to promote young people within the Arts in Hungary. It is, believe us, no more than so many others living in a foreign land, and we certainly include you, are doing in the name of friendship and to cement the ties which bind us all.
No, the bath project is only set aside for the time being.
Thank you friends. Wishing you a wonderful weekend,
DeleteBisous,
H
And we wish the same to you. xxx
DeleteThe "Painting" is certainly not the thing to hang in one's bath! I'd turn into a prune, soaking and wondering... My own guest bath is a small, dark space, the walls of which I've graced with merely old/not antique foil seascapes to add sparkle. (Guests emerge murmuring, "Hadn't realized Lionel Barrymore was an artist.")
ReplyDeleteI confess I'm not a collector of big pictures; however, I'm fascinated by the quality of amateur British landscape watercolors of the late 19th/early 20th C. Should you run dry for material for your blog, perhaps you'll show and tell us about the pets in your collection? Do you yourselves paint?
We do agree, Beth, practically, which we seldom are, 'Th Painting' is not best suited to the bathroom although, like you, we see no reason whatsoever not to hang pictures wherever one pleases. And why not the bathroom? We love the sound of your spare bathroom, so very imaginative and great fun too.
DeleteWe too have a number of late nineteenth century watercolours, largely done by 'gifted' amateurs of the time including four by The Hon. Harriet Waldergrave completed whilst she was on The Grand Tour in the 1880s or 1890s. Alas, neither of us paints!
Do, please, tell us if you have a blog yourself as we should of course wish to Follow you.
Your blog is always a delightful pause in my daily routine of full-time employment, Jane and Lance. What you do "do" is remind one that an informed appreciation of the arts, together with attendance at related public events and practical support of the artists themselves, is essential for sustaining civilized life in modern Western culture. It is, in fact, a life's work -- and it is what you "do" and do very well indeed.
DeleteI've no blog of my own. Perhaps someday when I finally retire I'll post "cutlines" beneath my 5-minute ink sketches and call them posts. Watercolors are beyond my skill set! (Frances, Countess of Waldegrave I've read about -- The Hon. Harriet is new to me. Shall look her up!)
We are exceedingly touched by this comment, Beth, but genuinely feel that we do no more, most likely far less, than many, many other people. And in truth, we ourselves gain so much from these young, talented people, all of whom are connected with the Arts, far more and in so many more ways than we can ever hope to give.
DeleteYour '5-minute' ink sketches sound fascinating, intriguing and appealing and, possibly, become a wonderful record of those things which affect your life or simply interest you. In the absence of a blog, we shall simply wait for your retirement!!
HW's watercolours are very attractive in that somewhat 'genteel' manner, which we are certain you understand.
What a wonderful painting. And what a wonderful idea to paint the sides of the bath. But I'm not sure that The Triumph of Nature Over Man" is the right title. It looks as if the animal is being kept firmly at a distance by the man's right foot.
ReplyDeleteWe are, Nick, so very pleased that you like the painting. You are very much on the side of the artist for when we first suggested the title to Máté his reaction was very similar to yours. For now the jury is out.
DeleteHave you told Timea of your party yet? I love the idea of the bath panel paiting, always interesting to find art in different places than on a wall.I do hope you get that project completed later.
ReplyDeleteYour new artwork is beautiful, I didn't see the crows head at first, just the white horse and the naked man (not sure what that says about me, ha ha). I think I would call it Triumph, as this covers my feelings on gardening achievements and gardening for pleasure in general.
To be truthful, not as yet, particularly as we are thinking of a Saturday , normally her day off. But it will not be a problem as we often have dinner parties on a Saturday evening!
DeleteWe are finding it quite difficult to arrive at a title and very much like the thoughts which lie behind 'Triumph'.
And no, the bathroom project is merely set aside for the time being.
Hi Jane and Lance,
ReplyDeleteThat first photo with the green panelling is so very pretty, serene and soothing. How exciting to have the beautiful and intriguing painting grace your home! Enjoy, for it is sure to be inspirational!
Have a wonderful week!
Poppy
We were very drawn to the bathroom at Charleston, Poppy, from the first moment we saw it. And whilst we have no wish to copy, it does serve as an inspiration for what we ourselves might do [or, more accurately, have done].
DeleteWe are most excited about Máté's painting and deciding where it should hang.
Hello Jane and Lance, thanks for stopping by my blog -- yes, you need to visit New Orleans.. it's so special and exotic.. like being in a far away land. And the food there is aMAYzing! You would want to go on a streetcar tour of the Garden District where there are many old mansions to see. LOVE the painted bathtub idea.. and of course your painting is so evocative and makes one think.. the best kind of art! ((hugs)), Teresa :-)
ReplyDeleteNow you are tempting us, Teresa, even more with your description of New Orleans which from the little we know and what you describe here sounds to be exactly the kind of place we should so much enjoy visiting.
DeleteYes, the Charleston bath is wonderful - we have certainly not given up on the idea!! And we are so much in agreement with what you say about the 'best' kind of art.
Good Afternoon Jane and Lance, Firstly, I have to tell you I love the photograph of your garden. Whilst I tend to have a very informal garden, I can appreciate the virtues of a formal garden.
ReplyDeleteI love the idea of the painted bath panel, I think it would be a wonderful addition to your bathroom. I do hope you decide to go ahead with the project some time in the future.
I love to visit you, because you open my eyes to paintings which ordinarily I would never see and by reading the comments left by your friends, I am learning something new each time I visit you.
Enjoy your new painting.
With warmest wishes.
Daphne
That is so kind of you, Daphne, to say about the garden. We made it over a period of 25 years from a 2 acre field and it was, as you may imagine, something of a wrench to leave it at the time. But we do not miss the work!!
DeleteWe certainly have not given up on the idea of the painted bath panel and Máté is not short of ideas for when we decide to go ahead. For now we are deciding where the new painting should hang.
During our time in Hungary we have developed a real interest in Hungarian contemporary art; we continue to learn, through looking and reading, all of the time. Absorbing and fun!
We both join in hoping that you will have a really good week. Warmest wishes from a lovely autumnal day in Budapest.
The Charleston Farmhouse bath looks so inviting with its soft green walls and painted bath panel, an idea I've not seen elsewhere. I can understand how you were inspired to create one for your own bath tub.
ReplyDeleteAnd, what a talent you have discovered in Orr Máté. His works are fantastical and beguiling.
There is so much about Charleston, and indeed the entire Bloomsbury Set, which greatly appeals to us. A fascinating house once occupied by people of great talent and interest who led intriguing lives which were in no sense bound by the conventions of the day.
DeleteWe are so pleased that you too admire Máté's work. What is more, he is the most delightful person.
Such beauty! the bath panel is just wonderful! bathing would be all the more perfect surrounded by this wonderful art, we don't have a bath, just a shower and I miss bathing so much, sigh - I adore the painting 'The Triumph of Nature over Man', I think it suits the painting and it is so true, nature does triumph every time - have a fabulous un-veiling! I know it will be! x x x
ReplyDeleteWe agree about the sheer joy and luxury of taking a bath in the midst of glorious art work. We have not given up on the idea at all, simply postponed for the present, something to which we, and ultimately our visitors, can look forward.
DeleteThe 'unveiling' of 'The Painting' will be great fun and sure to be a jolly occasion. The final decision for a title should, we feel, rest with Máté.
My word! You are both creative, lateral thinkers (and doers!) : that is one mighty exuberant, surreal work but please tell me that you are not going to now hang it over the bath (having decided to rethink under it!)? This is not because it might not suit but I am thinking of Timea here : how on earth will she manage the catering? On second thoughts I have no doubt that Timea will rise supremely to any occasion which 'Hattatt' present. Is Timea the 'power behind the throne'?
ReplyDeleteYour heart splitting garden in Herefordshire is again demonstrating your sideways thinking - I like sideways thinking. Sad to read in an earlier reply that you have now left that garden : I would have been sobbing into my vintage hanky that day. Just as your painting tells us that nature will reclaim in the end and for a while we are custodians of beauty.
Have a delicious day and thank you for calling in with your wit and wise words.
Best wishes
Jenny
PS: Perhaps you have a secret 'hot tub' in the garden and that will in fact become the new painting destination. Oh my - the juxtaposition of it all!!!!!
PPS: I searched for all things Hungarian in my house but for now could only come up with a Tibor Reich wall hanging. Mmmm - there is a gap to be filled there I think.
Be assured, Jenny, the latest Máté painting is destined for the drawing room although some rearrangement will be required in order to accommodate it.
DeleteYou have guessed correctly. Having been with us full time for ten years, Tímea is not only the 'power behind the throne' but it seems at times that she is actually sitting on the throne and we are mere subjects. She certainly rules us with the proverbial rod of iron and whilst everything is always accomplished to a very high standard, more often than not, or so we reflect, it is achieved on her terms!!
It was a wrench to leave the garden which we made over a 25 year period and which, at its height, achieved something of a National reputation featuring in many periodicals, such as 'House and Garden', and appearing on BBC2. ITV and Channel 4 in full length programmes. But, as we so often remark, we do not miss the work and responsibility. We sold to people who completely neglected it and who then sold to people who destroyed it to create a vineyard!! We have never been back.
Alas, no garden whatsoever now for a 'hot tub' either in Budapest or Brighton!
But so pleased you are getting into things Hungarian; the country needs your economic support!!!!
Dear Ones,
ReplyDeleteI so admire how the pair of you live on the edge. The thought of even considering a social do without the countenance of Timea, such bravery, such bravado. Knowing all too well the livid mess my Mother’s Viola (much like your Timea) works herself into when I and my entourage, my brother and his family and the sister and her gaggle descend upon the Citadel. Of course then again my Mother has a wicked sense of humor and does mention our arrivals till the evening before. I just hope Timea is not given to fits of breakage.
As for you latest commission, wonderful, and since being introduce to the artist by way or your blog I have found the nuance with in his work to be most though provoking, you don’t just look at his imagery but you profoundly feel what you are viewing. One can only image the work Mate will be creating as he matures as an artist and with continued patronage by other like minds as yourselves we will be seeing his work on the world stage in the future.
As the naming of this piece I would think something along “The Frailty Of Humanity In The Naturalized Arena”, just a thought. – gary
Well, dearest Gary, if truth is to be told we are somewhat delaying breaking the news to Tímea that a three course lunch for 14 -16 people is going to be on the cards very shortly and are thinking up ways of sweetening the pill. Of course she will do it, and is always rightly proud of her achievements but leading up to these occasions we have to put up with no end of sighing and wringing of hands!! Breakages have, to date, been averted!! We suspect that the Tímeas and Violas of the world are all of the same breed.
DeleteMáté will, we know, be so thrilled that you not only like his painting style but that you understand what he is trying to achieve. We too think that he has a very promising future but that is not, we hasten to add, the reason for collecting his work.
Your suggested title is, as of course it would be, most apposite; we shall most definitely put it forward.
Have a really enjoyable week and if at any time you want a dog sitter, then you know where to come!!
What an extraordinarily beautiful, haunting painting. I would give it a title but then it might be an indecent one. Probably my French turn of mind ...
ReplyDeleteWhatever, we are so pleased that you like Máté's painting which does, as you suggest, have a haunting quality about it. Now, as for your French turn of mind.......!!
DeleteThat is a wonderful painting and a lovely way to celebrate your gardening years.
ReplyDeleteSarah x
Thank you, Sarah. We are exceedingly thrilled with the painting and now need to decide where it will hang.
DeleteDear Jane and Lance, I think you should go ahead with the bath panel too. It would look exquisite.
ReplyDeleteWe have not given up on the idea at all but have, just for the present, been a little diverted!
Deletethe tub is incredible! just incredible!
ReplyDeleteExactly our feelings. And even better when you see it in real life at Charleston.
DeleteHow absolutely stunning is that piece! Such fierce power it exudes! And I would have LOVED to have visited your former garden though I read above that it has been turned into a vineyard. It breaks my heart when gardens aren't looked after as they are passed on. I have always enjoyed watching a lovely older couple work in their space down the street from me. Their garden was beautiful! After they sold a young family came in and ripped everything out and replaced it with grass and foundation plantings. Such a disappointment. Wishing you a lovely week and I do apologize for my delay in commenting on your post....the beans are back in school and my days have been a bit chaotic as of late! All the best to you both! Nicole xo
ReplyDeleteWhat you describe here, Nicole, of how when a garden changes hands it is so often ruined is, alas,so very true. Too often people appear to have no respect for what has gone before, but then this does not only apply to gardens.
DeleteWe imagine that the start of term is an exceedingly busy time and it must be difficult after the long summer break to get back into the normal routine.
My dearest Jane and Lance,
ReplyDeleteOrr Máté is a very talented artist. His pictures, the ones I have seen so far are highly evocative and surreal. They have a fairy-tale quality, a colouristic splendour and a thorough understanding of human physiognomy and a superlative grasp in visual perspective.
There is also another layer of meaning, that induces within the spectator a feeling of, perhaps, more psychological struggle, conflict or brutality between the two figures in the painting. One likes to imagine as if the naked Adam had been expelled and chased by a stag from the garden of Eden...it's the loss of paradise. It's the 'Stag's Leap' (the beautiful title of the poem by Sharon Olds).
I hope your unveiling event with a delightful luncheon, beautifully cooked, no doubt, by your devoted Timea, goes well. I know that the contemporary art is not everyone's cup of tea. I love the fact that your taste in acquiring art is bold, idiosyncratic, adventurous, cutting-edge and challenging. You are treading on revolutionary path, my dears. The picture of your Herefordshire garden gives me a sense of calm, tranquillity and I know that it was the labour of love.
Warmest wishes & thanks for your delightful comments as always in my blog which I shall reply soon,
ASD
Dearest ASD,
DeleteThat you should take so much time and trouble to respond to this post in this way is much appreciated. Your insightful comment, interpretation and analysis of Máté's painting is most welcome for it serves to open up another possible dimension to the work which, in turn, affords further food for thought. Contemporary art, as you rightly say, is not to everyone's taste and this we totally understand. What is important is, or so we believe, and this is especially true of the Arts in general, that one's mind remains open to, and receptive of, new ideas as they are presented and that one does not succumb to the prejudices which all too easily inhabit the world.
Gardening, in its highest form, we have always regarded as an art something to which, in the making of our own, we subscribed, not necessarily to obtain it. With notable exceptions, few do.
WE do trust that you are enjoying some lovely autumnal weather as we are here. xxx
Hallo, just a regard ! i see you are really very popular ! nice discussions and post ! saluti
ReplyDeleteWe do so enjoy the contact we have with everyone and so appreciate your keeping in touch.
DeleteDeerotica! A very talented artist indeed and whatever subject you decide for the bath panel will be sensational and one magical bath time experience for your lucky guests.
ReplyDeleteWe are still floating [no possible pun intended] ideas for the side of the bath. Whatever, we still think it rather a fun thing to do.
DeleteHis art is captivating and he paints with the wisdom and insight of a mature, perhaps older, artist. As with the first painting you shared with us, he draws you in with the intensity of color, pattern and subjects. He is a genius.
ReplyDeleteI do hope that there is a possibility that we will meet him in a week or so. This painting is deeper in allegory than the first we saw of his, and you can just feel the movement and life in this painting. I cannot wait to see it...
and both of you dears, of course.
Bises,
Genie
We so agree with all that you say here about Máté's painting, Genie, and are so very thrilled to add another to the 'collection'. Whatever, you will be able to judge it first hand!!
DeleteYes, amongst other things to see and do, we possibly might go to Máté's studio which would be fun and he is always so welcoming to all of our guests. Anyway, not so long now and we shall be at the airport!!
Take care. xxx
Be still, my beating heart!!! Máté's studio? Máté? Now, I am very excited!!
DeleteHave a wonderful weekend, my dears.
Genie
And you! Do not get worn out with all the packing, etc.!! xxx
DeleteIs there any greater joy than that which can be experienced in the realm of appreciating art? Boundless in it's ability to capture our hearts, our minds our memories... boundless in it's ability to speak many different languages (in fact all of them!) and boundless in dialectic nuances too. Boundless. Hmmm ... not a bad title methinks! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
ReplyDeleteWhere indeed would life be without the visual arts? And you are so right for in so many ways paintings [but so much else besides] do encourage a broadening of the mind and allow for intellectual experiment and, in so doing, contribute fully to life's experiences.
DeleteHello Jane and Lance,
ReplyDeleteall things considered, I can't help but feel the painting you now have is an excellent result for all the roundaboutedness of proceedings and one you'll be able to enjoy more frequently than if it were tucked away in a bathroom. As for a title? I keep thinking that there's a beast in Man that may be tamed through gardening, as much as Man may think himself the overseer in charge. But how to contract such an idea into a pithy title? Hmm. As soon as I've got somewhere I'll let you know. A remarkable painting, by the way. For myself, I'm glad you've got something that celebrates the life you've lived.
Dearest Faisal,
DeleteCertainly it would be rather a pity for Máté's most recent painting to be relegated to a bathroom, and a bathroom at that which is not used particularly frequently. No, we are decided that it will hang in the drawing room but are not certain at present exactly where!
We so much like the thought process which arrives at your title yet to be formulated in words! It very much reflects so many aspects of the painting.
Dear Jane and Lance,
ReplyDeleteCongratulations on your new painting - so striking! What a powerful presence!! I like the title, yes, indeed. Please share photos when it is hung in situ.
Cheers from DC,
Loi
PS - And, Jane, welcome to Pinterest!! Wonderful to follow you there.
Dear Loi,
DeleteMáté's painting, as you say, is certainly a 'powerful presence'. Now we have to decide where to hang it!!
We both individually have and enjoy Pinterest - such great fun.
Hello there Jane and Lance
ReplyDeleteso sorry, I am somewhat late to the party! Hope there's some wine left. :)
Somewhat serendipitously, I am hoping to go and visit Charleston over the next couple of weeks. I've always fancied it and you've only encouraged me.
Shame about the model, hope s/he is ok. I love the idea of immortalising your old garden, it sounds like it was a real labour of love and looks quite beautiful. Hope the lunch went with a bang!
Fear not, always an odd bottle of wine to be found in this household!!
DeleteHow splendid that you are, hopefully, planning a visit to Charleston. We find it absolutely inspiring and even if not to everyone's taste, which of course it is not, nevertheless it is so full of interest and part of our history.
One model comes, another goes!! One must be philosophical!
Dear Jane and Lance,
ReplyDeleteI love the idea of the bath panel, but feel it should be somewhat light hearted and fun. The wonderful painting to celebrate your gardening careers, is serious and fine and beautiful, startling even. I love the black and white chequerboard, it's so you! I would title it 'Nature of the Beast'.
I am sure your party will be a sparkling success. Good luck with it all. With all my love, Linda xx
Dearest Linda,
DeleteWe are in total agreement with you about the bath panel. It should most certainly be fun and contain elements to amuse and intrigue.
Of course we are delighted that you appreciate the painting and we too love the chequerboard effect - rather more interesting than grass!! We also like your title with its play on the word 'Nature'.
Now in the midst of planning the party [but have yet to tell Tímea!!]. Would that you could come and fill the apartment with your wonderful arrangements. Sigh!! xxx
I think Timea may perhaps be used to you entertaining angels, mad boys, floppy boys, teddies etc., on a whim, and will take it all in her stride, otherwise a little bribery and corruption may have to take place.
DeleteHow I would love to do the flowers for your party, but knowing you, you will have the right someone lined up and ready for action.
Thank you so much for visiting my sister, I knew you three would hit it off!
Better go and do a little work now. Much love to you my lovelies, Linda xx
We rather think that sometimes the comings and goings of all these mad boys [and girls] and 'Floppy Friends' is something of a mystery to Tímea but she copes with them all exceptionally well.
DeleteNo, Linda, we have no-one but ourselves for the flowers - a desperate situation!! xxx
Your title is good. And the idea of a painting in the bath revives in me the wish to paint our little utility room. It does not after all have to be utilitarian.
ReplyDeleteAs of now the title of the painting is still very much up in the air. At the end of the day it should, we feel, be for Máté to decide and, maybe, a title is not absolutely necessary.
DeleteYes, why not make the utility room non utility?!!
How very kind of you. Thank you so much.
ReplyDeleteDear Jane and Lance, the bath panel painted whimsically, colorfully...how I love that! Someday you may go through with it perhaps?
ReplyDeleteIn the meantime, you have quite a masterpiece by Orr Mate, how wonderful! His work is thought provoking and stunning...
Perhaps "man" will come to his senses after all...don't mess with Mother Nature. ;)
Love to you both,
- Irina
We do still very much hope, Irina, to decorate the side of the bath in some way as we think that it is a rather fun idea and we love the one at Charleston.
DeleteYes, the more that we look at Máté's latest painting, the more there is to read into it. We are certain that it will continue to excite comment for a long time to come. You are so right about 'man'!!
Dear Jane & Lance - I must have been away when you posted Bath Time.
ReplyDeleteThe more I see of Máté's unique creative vision the more I like it. I admire his nod to your garden and also his use of your own distinctive black and white colours.
I imagine that Máté probably has a title in mind, but my own contribution to the pot is Man's Frailty in the Face of Adversity.
sorry missed out the 'g', should read fragilty, but it almost represents the same thing.
DeleteWe do hope, Rosemary, that you had a really enjoyable time away and certainly one cannot, whatever, be 'chained' to the computer!
DeleteA nod to the garden, which of course you saw, is about as far as it goes but we are not at all displeased with that. Meanwhile, your title is, we feel, most pertinent. Thank you for it.
How about “The Rape of Man”?
ReplyDeleteI love the painting; your ‘floppy' painter friend is a truly original artist.
Perhaps one day he will paint your bathroom panel, although he might flinch at the idea that a piece of his art might be soaked?
Your suggested title certainly causes one to think along the many different lines which it beckons.
DeleteHe is very much one of the 'Floppy' friends, all of whom are so very creative and talented in so many varied ways.
i've never seen a bath like that before. and that garden is so beautiful
ReplyDeleteThe bath panel is, indeed, most unusual but great fun we think. And we are pleased that you like the garden.
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How intriguing and appeals so much to my Pagan spirit. I will have to ponder this one but the metamorphosis, the connection between man and beast are exemplified in his work, I am envious!
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The painting surely is intriguing, Di, and we are certain will continue to fascinate and appeal to us for a long time to come.
DeleteMáté is a most talented artist and we are so happy to count him as a friend.
The painted bath sounds cool but I can't imagine it would last too well with all that humidity plus it would be hard to paint. A canvas was a better choice and yours is quite dramatic. It reminds me of a clip I saw on FB in which a stag attacked a hunter with a gun, reversing the terms.
ReplyDeleteWhere the bath panel is concerned, there would need to be some kind of sealant to protect the paint which should not be a problem. A stag with a gun attacking the hunter would, we feel, have great appeal to Máté.
DeleteRather than painting the bath-tub, how about a mural for your guest bath? You know how wonderful Mark Ruffner's Pompeii room mural is turning out - so how about something on a smaller scale for just one wall of the bath?
ReplyDeleteThe subject could still be gardening or some other Bloomsbury type topic. I think it would be wonderful. But then you run the risk of having all your guests congregate in your guest bathroom all at the same time. :)
Your new Orre Mate painting is a heart-stopper, dear Jane and Lance. I also like the title you've selected. Though I might shorten it to 'The Triumph of Fauna' - just a thought. :)
That is, of course, Yvette also an exceedingly good idea and one which we shall seriously consider. In fact we have, from time to time, spoken of just such a scheme for our Front Hall. Mark Ruffner's Pompeii room is totally inspirational, the progress of which we have followed with wonder and admiration.
DeleteWe are so pleased that you like Máté's painting. But then we know from Pinterest you to have a very real feeling for paintings of so many different periods. Your boards are always of so much interest.
The bath tub painting is an interesting idea! I would hate to drip water all over it though, haha. The new painting you got is great, have you settled on a title yet?
ReplyDeleteThe painting of the side of the bath is no more than on hold. We shall have to see. As yet we are still considering titles but the final decision rests with Máté.
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ReplyDeleteFabulousness galore here. First of all I love that tongue and groove wood wall on the side of the bath. So much more softer and elegant than tiles (which never photograph well I've noticed, the grout puts paid to that) And the green is so fresh.
The picture is intriguing, your title explains what it is about so beautifully. If you wanted to leave it up to the viewer to guess maybe something obscure like "Black and white tiles" Too obscure?
Thank you for your wonderful generous comments while I was away.
Love Jody
We too favour the tongue and groove at the side of the bath, which we have in our Brighton bathroom, over tiles which can, in certain situations, appear somewhat clinical.
DeleteThere have been so many really interesting titles suggested for Máté's painting of which yours is also excellent. Finally we are leaving it to his decision.
Hello Jane and Lance, One of my fondest memories of my first visit to the UK was an afternoon at Charleston - and I remember all the extraordinary painted surfaces such as the bath. It is brilliant, and I hope you do eventually have something similar (which of course, we would all love to see). Your new painting is a wonderful allegory of a garden - nature Vs man. Having spent the past few weeks admiring the marble of Michelangelo, I have to comment on the artist's incredible handling of the musculature of both man and beast; he has a great talent indeed.
ReplyDeleteHello Jane and Lance
ReplyDeleteThank you for your lovely comments at my place. Blogging time has once again been on the back foot and it's been way too long since I stopped by.
Charleston Farmhouse, yes, a wonderful place! I'm fascinated by all things Bloomsbury and the influence of their words and art has been with me for as long as I can remember. So inspirational!
Mate's painting is truly exquisite and extraordinary. Can I possibly take the liberty of posting a link to my blog post about The White Hart as follows http://talesfromacottagegarden.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/white-hart-legend.html. You may find it interesting ...
As to a name, the White Hart symbolises purity. How about a play on that word such as 'Garden with a pure Heart' ....
Jeanne
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